Saisons 1970-2016 : transferts, matchs, joueurs, buteurs

[Koteg]

Maorissio Pokétino

First time in my French, when "Maur..." is not "Mor...", but "MAOR...." 

[IMFBB]

It's not in french but in spanish. For foreign players, you usually say the name in their language (Paoleta and not poleta like it should be in french)...

[Koteg]

OK

[IMFBB]

So, just Pineau from Montmorillon stays without his name...
If it is possible, please, search.
 (If no result - we can take him off the list.)

Michel Pineau ! 

[Koteg]

Great )))

Dossier is complete.

[Koteg]

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_Football_Club

Questions :

1. M'Pele 97 buts marques (our archive : 95)

[IMFBB]

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_Football_Club

Questions :

1. M'Pele 97 buts marques (our archive : 95)

According to you, Kollar, PSGStats, TopMercato and all I can see online, M'Pele scored 95 goals in 217 matchs.

So, now, wikipedia is ok with us in the François M'Pelé page and in the "Liste des joueurs du PSG" page and will be soon in the PSG page!  

[Koteg]

Wiki took this WRONG information here :

http://psg70.free.fr/accueil.htm

Classement des buteurs - M'Pele 97 

I think, I will find, where the mistakes are ...

[Koteg]

So, if to compare ...  François M'Pelé  BUTS

............notre version......wiki et psg70.free.fr

1973/74..........13.............14
1974/75..........31.............31
1975/76..........18.............18
1976/77..........19.............19
1977/78...........9..............9
1978/79...........5..............5
total ..............95.............96 but they calculate 97  

THEIR MISTAKE is in the dossier :

Dimanche 12.05.1974, Championnat de France, Division 2, Groupe 'B', 32e journée (2e place)
à Saint-Ouen, au Stade de Paris (Bauer) :
PARIS SAINT-GERMAIN F.C. - A.C. ARLES  6:1 (0:1)
- 1 163 spectateurs. Buts : Koum, 24' ; Jacky Laposte, 48', Éric Renaut, 51', François M'Pelé, 53', Mordechaï Spiegler, 75', Jean Deloffre, 80', Mordechaï Spiegler, 89'.
L'Équipe du PSG : Jacques Planchard - Christian Quéré, Éric Renaut, Jean-Louis Léonetti, Louis Cardiet - Jacky Laposte, Jean Deloffre, Jean-Louis Brost (Michel Marella, 75') - Christian André, François M'Pelé, Mordechaï Spiegler. Entraîneurs : Just Fontaine et Robert Vicot.

They say : François M'Pelé - 2 buts ; et Mordechaï Spiegler - 1 but.

France Football says 1 et 2 

[Koteg]

SIEBATCHEU (Stade de Reims)

To prononce : Siébatcheu (1) ou Sibatcheu (2) ?

[IMFBB]

Dunno, sorry! 

I would say 2, but I didn't pay attention during the match...

[Koteg]

I would say 2, but I didn't pay attention during the match...

According to Lfp.fr video highlights... Sounds closer to 1.

http://m.lfp.fr/video/79992/resume

(But if I will say it in Russian, it will sounds more rough.)

[IMFBB]

Yep, definitly #1...

[Koteg]

http://www.foot-sur7.fr/267814-psg-pastore-rentre-dans-lhistoire-du-paris-saintgermain
At the end of this article, dedicated to the 35th goal scored by Pastore, we can see the classification of top-scorers of PSG FC.
François M'Pelé has "our" 95. Everything seems OK, but with the exception of one detail : Christian André has 42 buts marqués, when our version says 43.

The Encyclopedy of Michel Kollar is not with me, and I will try to find some answers, using psg70...

Christian André
............notre version......wiki et psg70.free.fr
1972/73..........27.............26 (because of Cherbourg-PSG 0:1)
1973/74..........14.............14
1974/75...........2...............2
total ...............43.............42 THEIR MISTAKE  

We had already the decision to keep Kollar's version of the one goalscorer in the Cup match at Cherbourg : Christian André (!) - and not Bernard Béreau.

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Mardi 19.12.1972, Coupe de France, 6e tour
à Cherbourg, au Stade Maurice-Postaire :
A.S. CHERBOURG - PARIS ST-GERMAIN F.C.  0:1 (0:0)
- 2 355 spectateurs. But : Christian André, 23'.
L'Équipe du PSG : Camille Choquier - Didier Ledunois, Thierry Coutard, Bernard Béreau, Michel Béhier - Robin Leclerc, Jacky Laposte - Jean-Louis Brost, Christian André, Éric Renaut, Othniel Dossevi. Entraîneur : Robert Vicot.
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But it is not all clear...

Our version : Mardi 19.12.1972
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Mardi 19.12.1972, Coupe de France, 6e tour
à Cherbourg, au Stade Maurice-Postaire :
A.S. CHERBOURG - PARIS ST-GERMAIN F.C.  0:1 (0:0)
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Michel Kollar version : Dimanche 17.12.1972
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Dimanche 17.12.1972, Coupe de France, 6e tour
à Cherbourg, au Stade Maurice-Postaire :
A.S. CHERBOURG - PARIS ST-GERMAIN F.C.  0:1 (0:0)
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http://www.paris-canalhistorique.com/17121972-cherbourg-psg/

Database.EU says Dimanche...
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.coupe.cherbourg.paris-s-g.70392.en.html

HOW TO KNOW THE TRUTH DEFINITELY about the date ?  

[Koteg]

Mardi 19.12.1972, Coupe de France, 6e tour
à Cherbourg, au Stade Maurice-Postaire :
A.S. CHERBOURG - PARIS ST-GERMAIN F.C.  0:1 (0:0)

Mardi 19 - from the Dictionnaire du Michel Kollar